Fatima: Good evening, and welcome to our Facebook live chat. Tonight we'll be talking to you about the 2017 Graduate Programme for the Department of Immigration and Border Protection. A few things before we get started. For the half hour we'll be talking about anything and everything Grad Programme related, so feel free to ask any questions you have in the comment box below, and we'll try and get through as many as we can. If we don't get to your question, just make sure you post it either on Facebook, LinkedIn, or Whirlpool, and we'll be able to provide you with more information on there.
I guess before we start with the questions it would be a good idea to introduce ourselves. So, Ben, would you like to go first?
Ben: Yeah, not a problem. So my name's Ben. I studied a Double Degree in Psychology and Business. That was a four year degree, and obviously got a job with the Grad Programme last year. In our first rotation at the moment, so my first rotation has been with Learning and Development. It's been a lot of fun so far. And yourself?
Fatima: Yeah. So my name's Fatima. I've studied a Bachelor of Business and Law, and that was a five year degree. Straight after that just entered the Graduate Programme, which has been great. My first rotation is in Refugee and Humanitarian, and I'm finding that quite interesting. I think it's good as a first rotation, so yeah.
Ben: It sounds it. Hmm.
Fatima: Yeah. Just to start us off tonight, before we start receiving your questions, we'll go through some of the more commonly asked questions, but do get commenting so we can answer your questions as well. OK, first question, go for it, Ben.
Ben: No worries. Yeah, so the first question we've got here is, 'Will I have to move to Canberra if I get a job as a graduate?' Very good question. So with that one, the majority of the graduate positions will be located in Canberra. There are some opportunities for regional roles, but we can't guarantee those positions. Also with the Intelligence and ICT positions for the Grad Programme, they will all be located in Canberra. You know, that being said, if you do have to come to Canberra you do get relocation assistance.
Fatima: That's right, yeah.
Ben: You know you get help moving all your furniture. If you've got a vehicle, they'll help out with relocation as well. And the company they used was really good. I know I had I was a bit, you know, stressed about moving, but they took care of everything, they packed all my gear and stuff, which was really useful, really helpful, so that was really a really good opportunity. How was your move down to Canberra?
Fatima: Yeah, I think I was the same. Initially I was a bit nervous moving to Canberra. I guess when you say Canberra everyone's like, 'Oh, what are you going to do in Canberra?' But once you get here it really is a great place to be, and you make a lot of friends through the Graduate Programme and through grad social networking as well, so that's really helpful. And, yeah, I'm actually loving Canberra. And I totally agree with Ben, with the whole support thing, whether it be, yeah, your car, your belongings, temporary accommodation, so all of that is really quite good, so you are really supported in the move. So if you are interested, don't let that stop you, moving isn't so bad after all. Yeah.
Ben: Yeah, definitely. Do you want the next one?
Fatima: Ready? I'll take the next one.
Fatima: So, OK, next question, 'How long do I have to get my application in?' That's also another really good question. So the closing time for applications is 5 p.m. Sunday 15th of May, so that's this coming Sunday. We did open applications on the 2nd of May, so there was about two weeks for everyone to familiarise themselves with the application and get it submitted. I think one of the most important things to remember whilst submitting [inaudible – break in audio – 3:26] inundated with work, so with uni, I think it was uni mid-semester exam time, I was also working, and so I would just take time out each night just to start working on that application, so I think that's a good idea. Yeah. How did your application process go?
Ben: Yeah, very similar. Obviously you've got other commitments, you know, work, family/life balance, things like that, so the earlier the better. Give yourself some time for the application. I know collecting all the documentation that you need, can take time.
Fatima: Definitely, yeah.
Ben: I'd also give you time for like selection criteria and things like that. If you think of a good scenario, it's really good to have a draft of that and then come back to it, because you might think, you know, you can word it a bit better. Just so you can put that best foot forward and, you know, get yourself the best opportunity for that grad application as well.
Fatima: Yeah, so just re-read over everything and then submit. Yeah.
Fatima: All right, next question.
Ben: This one's mine?
Fatima: That one's yours.
Ben: Yeah. No worries. OK, let's have a look. OK. And so we've got one here for, 'What are the different streams for your Graduate Programme?' So for this year we've actually got three streams for the 2017 Graduate Programme for the Department of Immigration of Border Protection, so these ones are your generalist stream, ICT stream, and intelligence stream. As I mentioned before your Intelligence and your ICT are all located in Canberra. Your generalist does have the possibility, but that's not guaranteed. So it just depends on your degree. ICT will obviously be very specific, depends on the subject matter and what professional disciplines you've had exposure to.
Fatima: Yeah, definitely.
Ben: Things like that. So you can choose what stream you'd like to go for, depending on your backgrounds. I, myself, am a generalist; I did psychology and business, so that lined up with, you know, what I was looking for career wise, and just my experience and my knowledge background as well.
Fatima: Yeah, definitely, yeah, I'm the same as you.
Ben: Anything to add?
Fatima: No, not really, same as Ben. We did get in a question now, so we've got a question from Sagar[?] [Indistinct name – 5:30]. Sagar's[?] asked, 'What job will I get after a Bachelor Degree in Business?' So Bachelor Degree in Business, I studied business and law, so you could get into the generalist stream, and that way you have a range of kind of jobs to work in. Yeah. So generalist gets you into many different parts of the Department, so you could potentially be working in Visa Management, and then you know for your next rotation be placed in a corporate area, so you've studied business, depending on you know what you're interested in, you can get into say economic policy, or you can even get into finance.
And, yeah, so with a Bachelor Degree in Business there is a lot that you can do with the Department. Is there anything you'd like to add to that?
Ben: Yeah. Well like yourself, I did a double degree, so I did psychology and business, I studied a Bachelor of Business majoring in management, and with that one I went for the generalist programme, and with that you really can do anything. You know, there's three rotations within the Graduate Programme, and as a part of the generalist role you can go wherever, you get preferences, stuff that you're interested in. I know, myself, I'm in Learning and Development at the moment; my next rotation's in the Australian Border Force. You know that's two completely different roles, but the same degree gives me those opportunities to access all of that.
So a business degree is a really good one for the generalist because it's given you, you know, marketing, advertising, human resources, accounting.
Fatima: Exactly. Yeah.
Ben: Those skills and that knowledge will be really useful trying to get all those different roles, depending on what you're interested in.
Ben: Is the next one me?
Fatima: OK, next question. I think it is you, yeah.
Ben: No worries. I think that's the next one.
Fatima: Yeah, that's the next one.
Ben: All right, no worries. OK, so we've got a question here, 'So what sort of requirements do you have for the Graduate Programme?' So that's obviously a fair question.
Ben: So with the Graduate Programme for this year, basic requirements are you need an undergraduate degree – minimum of three years – that you've completed in the last five years, and that's completed with an average of a credit point average.
Fatima: Yeah, it's credit. That's correct, credit.
Ben: Yeah, so just undergraduate degree within three years, completed within the last five years, undergraduate degree, and you also have to be an Australian citizen at the time of application. So if you're going through it at the moment, but you'll get Australian citizenship by the time the Graduate Programme starts, then that's fine, we're more than happy for you to apply because you'll meet that criteria.
And with that one, with the three year degree within the last five years, they do mean that. I graduated in 2012, you know I had some other jobs in the corporate environment, wasn't really sure what I wanted to do, and then I found this one, so that selection criteria is really helpful.
Ben: You know, I'm still able to use my degrees, and the opportunities that I've had here just so far, first rotation, have been fantastic.
Fatima: Yeah. And even in addition to that, so with the requirements, so degrees from basically everywhere we have. I mean in our grad year we've got a lot of, you know, lawyers, but we've also got a lot of international relations, ICT, and then so, yeah, IT kind of degrees, and also visual arts as well, so whatever you've studied, you can apply, so yeah.
Ben: Yeah, there's definitely variety. And also a last requirement is you do need to obtain and maintain the security clearance just as part as working for the APS and the Australian Government. So that's another process along the recruitment criteria, but just something to keep in mind as well.
Fatima: Yeah, definitely. Thank you.
Ben: And the next one's yours.
Fatima: Yeah, the next one's mine. So this question is from Mohammad. So Mohammad's asked, 'Can an international student,' sorry, 'apply for the Graduate Programme?' Thanks for the question, Mohammad. Unfortunately our Graduate Programmes are only open to Australian citizens. So we have a range of eligibility criteria on our website, and you can have a look at that and just see, yeah, so Australian citizens for the Graduate Programme. Yeah.
Ben: Yeah. As I said, if you're in the process of becoming an Australian citizen, as long as it's complete by the time you start the Grad Programme, then you can still apply.
Fatima: Yeah. You can definitely apply.
Ben: It just has to happen before you obviously start the Programme.
Fatima: Yeah, that's right.
Ben: I think the next one's myself.
Fatima: Yeah. That one.
Ben: This one?
Fatima: Yep, that's the one.
Ben: Yeah, no worries. So I've got another question here, 'So should I apply for the 2017 Graduate Programme if I'm graduating this year?' So that's another good question. So with that one, [clearing throat] excuse me, if you are in your final year of study and you'll graduate obviously end of this year, as long as you're graduating before you're finishing your final year of study then you can still apply. You just have to give I guess an unofficial transcript?
Fatima: That's right, unofficial transcript, yeah.
Ben: And then, yeah, so obviously you go through your graduation, and at the end of the time that you're going through it we just obviously need an official transcript once you've graduated, and we're still happy to have that application through as well. Also to keep in mind that you do need an average of a credit average for the degree, so you won't have your marks until a fair while after, if I remember from uni.
Ben: Yeah, it takes a bit of time. So just keep that in mind – [clearing throat] excuse me – keep that in mind, just do your best in that final few subjects, and once you've completed it you can also go for the application as well.
Fatima: Definitely. Yeah. I mean I'm one of those people who did, I was in my final year and did apply, and I was just providing unofficial transcripts. So it's totally fine. Do it, yeah.
Ben: Yeah, and we'll work with you to try and get it off. They'll do interviews and do the application process at the same time that you're going through that final year. So it's really handy that you can still process that.
Fatima: Definitely. Yeah. Alrighty, the next one's mine.
Ben: All yours.
Fatima: So Josh has asked, 'What sort of personal and professional development opportunities do you offer your graduates, compared to university?' That's a really good question; yeah, a really good one. So our Graduate Programme offers three different rotations, and the reason that's I guess different to university is that you're kind of thrown into three different areas of work that you may have never done before, so depending on what your background is you can, you know as I said earlier, you can go into a Visa Management, then you can go into a corporate, and then you can even do a rotation in like the Australian Border Force, which is really operational.
So there is that variety of different work experiences that will help you build your capabilities and expand your knowledge of the Department. There is also professional training blocks that are provided throughout the year and they focus on the APS core skills, and also just, you know just getting you really familiar with the Department and, yeah, so really helping you with your development. And there is also a mentorship and buddy programme that helps new graduates as well. So we each have a buddy, and you know if you need anything at all the buddy's there to help you. And that buddy has been – so that buddy was a previous graduate who's been through everything that we're going through at the moment, and it is really helpful to have someone like that. Yes.
Ben: Yeah. The support network is really good, and that professional development does go with that. So obviously with the buddy it's been really good, you can talk to them about rotations, preferences. Your supervisor's also really useful. So I know with my supervisor, we discussed personal development, so I get to do a lot of different e-courses in different areas.
Fatima: Yeah, same.
Ben: Just because it's interesting, it's not actually related to the area.
Fatima: Exactly, yeah.
Ben: Block training is really good, as part of the grad team organises that, APSC events is another one, and so that way you get to network with grads from a lot of different areas, like use that networking and a bit of professional development as well.
Fatima: Yeah. And it also does build your confidence. Getting to know so many different people from different areas is really great. Yeah.
Ben: Yeah, definitely. Good question, Josh.
Fatima: OK, yes. Next question.
Ben: Is this me?
Fatima: Yes, it's you [chuckles].
Ben: OK. Yeah, so the next question we've got here is, 'Can I apply with a TAFE Diploma?' That's a fair question.
Ben: So with that one, so as part of the requirements for the 2017 Graduate Programme you do need a minimum three year undergraduate degree with that credit average in order to be eligible to apply. So we do take interest from applicants who have, you know, postgraduate degrees who are then doing further stuff as well, but that, like Masters, Doctorate, anything like that.
Fatima: That's right. Yeah.
Ben: But as long as you've got that three year undergraduate degree, that is the minimum requirement to apply for that Graduate Programme.
Fatima: Yeah. Alrighty.
Ben: Do we have any more? Come on, computer. Did you have anything you wanted to add onto that one, or any personal anecdotes?
Fatima: Not really.
Fatima: Oh, there we go, we just got one in. OK. So Asifa's[?] asked, 'What is the closing date for the application,' applications, sorry. So closing date for the applications is the 15th of May, and that's the Sunday 15th of May, and so make sure you're kind of working on your selection criteria and everything beforehand so that you're ready to go before the Sunday, and submit everything in. And, yeah, I think we spoke about the importance of really like reading over your work, fixing up your CV and everything. Remember that is the first impression that you give to the Department, so it would be a really good idea to kind of just work on that now for submission by Sunday. Yeah.
Ben: Yeah, exactly. And that is a good thing, you've got the weekend, so it doesn't finish til Sunday, so even if you haven't done it yet, you can take the Saturday, you can take during the week, you know really give the application your full attention, you want to put your best foot forward, obviously.
Fatima: Definitely. Yeah.
Ben: You want to make sure you've got all of your documentation, because if you've got all that documentation and all the parts of the process done, it means that they'll be able to process the application faster, which means you can hopefully progress to the next stage, and it's just going to make life easier for you in the long run as well.
Fatima: Yeah. I agree.
Ben: Let's have a look. It doesn't load very fast, does it? [Chuckles]
Fatima: No, it doesn't.
Ben: Come on computer. Sorry, it's just being a bit slow, just loading some of the questions.
Fatima: Ooh, there we go.
Ben: There we are.
Fatima: Is it you or me?
Ben: I can't remember. Do you want me to do this one?
Fatima: I'll just go. I'll do it.
Ben: All yours.
Fatima: OK, so Rajash[?] has asked, 'Can I apply if I don't graduate until 2019?' So unfortunately you won't be able to apply for this round, but you can apply once you've completed your study by the commencement of the next Graduate Programme. So keep a look out, I mean every year there is a Graduate Programme, so once you do finish in 2019 apply for the next one – I think it would be the 2020 Graduate Programme.
Ben: Yeah, it would be.
Fatima: Yeah, so apply for that one. But just keep in mind that you will need a credit average to apply.
Ben: Yeah. So just keep working at your degree. Make sure you're obviously putting your best foot forward with your studies as well, because that will help later on with your application.
Ben: And then once you're set up to graduate you can always apply during that final year, whenever that is, and then you can go for that, whatever round is on for that year as well.
Fatima: Yeah. Yeah.
Ben: That's a good question. [Coughing] Excuse me. OK, so we've got a question from Rachel, so she's asked, 'I finished my degree three years ago, can I still apply?' So, yes, that's absolutely fine. So the only requirement, oh, one of the requirements is the three year undergraduate degree completed within the last five years, so as long as it's, you know, you've still got the degree, make sure you've still got all the paperwork, things like that, within the last five years, that's not a problem. As I said, I graduated in 2012 – it seems like a lot longer than that – but graduated in 2012 and, yeah, I got into this Graduate Programme.
So there are opportunities, as long as it's within that five year mark, you've got that credit point average, Australian citizen, as long as you're ticking all those boxes then you can definitely apply for this round, and we'd encourage you to, Rachel.
Fatima: Yeah, go for it. OK, next. We're just waiting for the next question to load. OK.
Ben: [Chuckles] Need hold music or something to make it interesting.
Ben: Well while we're waiting for the next question we can just…
Fatima: Yeah, I guess… oh, it just came through. OK [chuckles].
Ben: Oh, beat me to the punch. Of course the second I start talking. This one's yours.
Fatima: Yeah. So Samantha's asked, 'What is the best stream for an arts law student?' So for an arts law student the best stream would be the generalist stream, so that's the stream Ben and I are both in at the moment. So again with the generalist stream you'll have an access to a really wide range of the Department. Yeah, you'll be able to work in – so arts law, you will be able to work in legal, but then you can also transfer into different areas like I guess Visa Management, even through to the Australian Border Force. So, yeah, you will be in the generalist stream for that one. Yeah.
Ben: Yeah, cool. And so you were obviously law as well, but you're not specifically working in a law area.
Fatima: No, I'm not.
Ben: So you do have those opportunities. Yeah.
Fatima: Yeah. So definitely, yeah. So I did study law and, yeah, I'm working in Refugee and Humanitarian at the moment, so it's not really legally related at all. But, yeah, I am hoping to get into Legal for the next rotation or so. Yeah.
Ben: Yeah, definitely. And that's really any kind of degree. Like, you know, business and psychology, Learning and Development is semi-related, but then my next one with Border Force, you know, it's not really related to that degree.
Fatima: Exactly. Yeah.
Ben: So when you obviously do start the Programme you'll get exposure to all the different potential rotations, and if something is interesting, you know it doesn't really matter if the degree doesn't align, as long as you've got that interest and you've got that motivation to do it you can still access those areas, which I think is really cool.
Fatima: Yeah. I think that's the beauty of it, yeah, being able to do so much, and it's so different to what you've even studied. So, yeah, I think that is good.
Ben: Definitely makes it a bit more interesting [chuckles].
Fatima: Yeah, definitely. OK, next one.
Ben: OK, so I've got a question here from Nadia. So Nadia's asked, 'How do I apply for the Graduate Programme?' Still with that one, you can just apply online, so it's just www.border.gov.au.
Fatima: Perfect. Yeah.
Ben: As we said, applications close on the 15th of May. So the application's all online, so all you have to do is just jump online, follow the prompts, answer all the questions to the best of your ability, collect all the documentation, so it should give you I think a list of the application with all the documentation. So make sure you're starting to all them. That's why you give yourself a bit of time, just to find all of those.
Fatima: Yeah, definitely.
Ben: Put in all the information, and then you'd be good to go from there. Generally with the applications it does take around about six months from start to finish. Obviously there are a lot of steps in that process.
Fatima: Yeah. Plenty of steps, yeah.
Ben: But just so you're aware of those timeframes, and we'll advise you along the way as you go for that as well. Well, not us, Recruitment will.
Fatima: Yeah. Recruitment will [chuckles].
Ben: I'm not at that level just yet.
Fatima: No, not yet, Ben [chuckles]. All right, thanks for the question, Nadia.
Ben: Yeah, thank you.
Fatima: We've got the next one from Ali. Ali's asked, 'What is the best stream to apply for if I have a Bachelor of Business?' So with a Bachelor of Business, we both studied a Bachelor of Business.
Ben: It's very popular, apparently.
Fatima: Yeah, it is very popular. So generalist stream is for you. Again, with the generalist stream you have access to a wide variety in the Department. So, yeah, with a business degree I guess, you know, you can go into, as I said earlier, so something like more corporate, in finance, or economic policy, or you can even move into something completely different to your degree. But so with a Bachelor of Business you will in the generalist stream. Yeah.
Ben: Yeah, even with the different majors you can still do that.
Ben: Like I did business management, you can do marketing, advertising, finance, things like that as well. There's rotations that can suit if you want to go towards what you studied for a major as well. It just depends what you're interested in. But Bachelor of Business, great degree.
Fatima: Yeah, great degree [chuckles].
Ben: And you can definitely do it with that as well.
Fatima: Yeah, I agree.
Ben: And always just check the website for more information. We've got a bit on there as well.
Fatima: Yeah, do it. The next one.
Ben: OK. This one's me?
Fatima: Yeah, your turn.
Ben: OK. [Coughing] Excuse me. I've just got a question from Nick. So Nick's asked, 'Where will the assessment centres be held?' So for that one, we've got the assessment centres in most of the capital major cities, so we've got it in Canberra, Sydney, Melbourne, Brisbane, Perth, and Adelaide.
Fatima: Adelaide. Yeah.
Ben: Yeah, and that one. So with I think regional ones there are different options, but most of it is in the capital centres, and you'll be advised the process of that with enough notice to obviously co-ordinate any travel that's required, and the timings for that as well. So keep an eye out on the application process, they will advise what's happening with that. But the assessment centres are actually good fun.
Fatima: Yeah, they are really good fun.
Ben: I had a fun time, which is pretty rare [chuckles].
Fatima: Yeah [chuckles]. Yeah, yeah, it was good.
Fatima: OK, so the next one is from sweet[?] Natasha. So she's asked, 'How much gap accepted after the bachelor?' So I'm assuming, yeah, how much of a gap year is accepted after the bachelor. So, yeah, so as long as you've completed your degree within the last five years you can apply. So let's say it's, what, 2017 Programme, so if you've completed your degree in 2013 you can still apply. Yeah, so as long as it's within the last five years, feel free to apply. Yeah.
Ben: Yeah. And I'm not sure if she was referring to a gap year itself, but if you have taken a gap year then that's fine. I know I took a gap year after uni, worked for a while, and then applied. So within that five year mark, not a problem at all, credit average, chuck an application in.
Fatima: Yeah, definitely. OK, next one.
Ben: Right, so we've got another question here from Amar[?]. So the question is, [clearing throat] excuse me, 'If I'm in the process of applying for citizenship will it hold up by the time – and it'll finish by the time the Programme starts, can I still apply?' So with that one, so if it's on hold, unfortunately you have to be an Australian citizen at the time of application in order for your application to be considered. So if you're going through the process, that's fine, as long as it's finalised and you've been granted that Australian citizenship by the time that the Graduate Programme starts, then that's not a problem. You just have to be that Australian citizenship. So if it is on hold, unfortunately that does happen, we'd obviously encourage you to consider after the next year's Programme, because you will have that box ticked for part of the selection criteria.
Fatima: Yeah, definitely.
Ben: So just keep an eye on it. If it looks like it's going to apply, fingers crossed, just see how you go.
Fatima: Yeah, best of luck with that. So the next question is from Nabila[?]. Nabila's[?] asked, 'What IT positions do you have available in the Graduate Programme?' So we're not from an IT background, but we do know that there's a large IT footprint at the Department. We offer a wide range of opportunities, including development, architecture, database management, ICT infrastructure, project management, and many more. So that's just a few of the things you can be involved in, in the IT, or the ICT field. Yeah.
Ben: Yeah. And even though it is a different stream, like the ICT graduates, there is still a lot of interaction.
Fatima: Oh, definitely. Yeah, yeah.
Ben: Like we do block training together, like we always do, so for networking functions they come to the events, things like that. And the ICT guys obviously come from a variety of backgrounds as well. You know, speaking to some of them, we've got like advanced robotics, applied mathematics.
Fatima: Yeah, some really cool stuff.
Ben: Stuff that's just straight over my head, unfortunately.
Fatima: Yeah [chuckles]. Yeah, definitely.
Ben: But, yeah, so a range of backgrounds and a range of positions are available. You know, there's a lot of major capabilities, a lot of ICT, in biometrics there's a few ICT people.
Fatima: Yeah, biometrics. Yeah.
Ben: So some really interesting areas for those grads as well. Sometimes a bit jealous, but not very tech savvy.
Fatima: Yeah, same [chuckles]. No, not at all. Next one.
Ben: Yeah, so we've got a question here from Abethia[?] – apologies if I've pronounced that wrong – so a question here, 'Do you have any advice for successfully progressing through the application stages?' That's a very good question.
Fatima: Yeah, that's a really good one. Yeah.
Ben: Probably the easiest and simplest advice we can give is just make sure you're reading and understanding everything in the application process. You know, don't rush through it. I know when I was first looking at grad programmes you speed read and they all sound the same.
Fatima: Exactly. Yeah.
Ben: And then all of a sudden its loaded wrong and you can't really take it back. So make sure, you know, taking your time with it, do some drafts, you know pay attention to what it's asking, just use the, for selection, you know the STAR method.
Fatima: Yeah, yeah. Situation, task…
Ben: So it's situation, task, action…
Ben: … result.
Fatima: Yeah. Yeah, that's it. Use that. Yeah.
Ben: Yes, so I remembered. Yeah, so that'll be very handy, so make sure you're just reading everything, give yourself time to collect all the details, because if you've got all the information that we require it's going to make them a lot easier to process that application, and obviously it looks better for yourself as well. You know was that advice you'd want to get if you were going through?
Fatima: Yeah, definitely. Yeah. And just don't doubt yourself, give it a shot, and yeah, I think that's very important as well.
Fatima: All right. OK. This is our last question, if it just loads. OK, so we've got a question from Philippa. Philippa's asked, 'I'm interested in the Intelligence and Counter-terrorism stream, can you tell me more about what the Department does in this area?' OK, so this is a new area, and it's a new offering for 2017, and the Department is very excited about bringing in new grads to this.
I guess desirable qualifications for the Intelligence and Counter-terrorism stream include intelligence, political science, counter-terrorism, cyber crime, and forensics. And, yeah, so it is a new stream, and that's basically what's required for that one.
Ben: Yeah. It does sound pretty awesome from what I've heard.
Fatima: It sounds really good. Yeah.
Ben: We have had people who have had national security and counter-terrorism qualifications in this Graduate Programme, so obviously they do have the Intel area that you can go into, which I haven't made it into there yet.
Fatima: No, me either.
Ben: But it does sound like there's some fantastic stuff coming through next year.
Fatima: Yeah, definitely. So, yeah, do apply. Do we have time for one more? Yeah, so one last question.
Ben: OK, so we've got a question here from Nabila[?] – so, again, apologies if I said that wrong – 'Can you be accepted into the Programme as a permanent resident?' So with that one so graduates do need to be an Australian citizen to be accepted into the Graduate Programme. Now as we said before, if it's in the process of applying and is finished by the time the Grad Programme starts, that's all good. But unfortunately Australian citizenship is a prerequisite for the Graduate Programme.
Fatima: Definitely. Yeah.
Ben: And so I think that's all we've got time for.
Ben: Well I suppose thanks everyone for tuning in. We really appreciate you taking the time out of your busy Tuesday to have a listen to us. Hopefully we have provided some helpful information.
Ben: If you do have any further questions, or anything we haven't got to, please feel free to keep commenting, or we're on LinkedIn, Whirlpool, Facebook, on Facebook on here as well, so any further questions feel free to chuck them on there and we'll get to them as soon as we can.
Fatima: And best of luck with all of your applications.
Ben: Yeah, good luck everyone. Thanks very much.
Fatima: See you, guys.
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